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Gwen
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posted 12-04-2005 08:39 PM
Got a copy of the ARS Journal courtesy of Toby last week. Looks OK, printing and layout looks professional. Some of the photos are pretty grainy, but not too bad.A HUGE oversight/omission (in my view) is a complete lack of any sort of biographical information on the authors of the papers. What's up with that? I've never seen a journal that doesn't have some sort of blurb about the authors. How am I supposed to form an opinion about the qualifications of the authors if I have no information on them? Did you know anything about that Bob? Gwen
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Thomas james hayman
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posted 12-04-2005 09:06 PM
You got one, lucky you!Good to hear from someone not related to the ARS that it looks good. -------------------- The allotment spot http://tomsallotment.blogspot.com/
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Marcele
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posted 12-05-2005 12:16 PM
Thank you for the feedback, Ginevra. I agree that a short mention of bio background/snail-mail address would have been a useful addition to what is there. One possible action I could take would be to add some short bio information to the journal page on the ARS website. I'll communicate with the authors on that topic.The next issue will contain this sort of information so that interested parties may follow up with the authors or at least know their background. This whole process has been a tremendous learning experience. -Tasha McGann Editor, JotARS
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chef de chambre
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posted 12-05-2005 03:45 PM
I know nothing about the process - I wrote an article. I had nothing to do with the layout, editing, or format, nor am I anything other than a common member of the society.My commentary would be that the best qualification for writing a research paper would be writing a solid research paper, well footnoted, and logicaly defensible - alphabet soup at the end of a name means very little, and more than one PHD has written poor research. Heck, I know of at least one curator out there with as much (or little) academic credentials as myself. It was my understanding that the very purpose of the society was to foster armour research, by independant scholars especially, and bring them into contact and communication with professionals in the field - it wasn't supposed to be an organ for professional scholars only. Ian Eaves told me once that the field or drive in the field is suffering from a lack of new blood, pursuing different ideas - it's my understanding that the ARS is intended to give a transfusion. For what it's worth. -------------------- Bob R.
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chef de chambre
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posted 12-05-2005 06:46 PM
Hey Gwen,You have a point. The first half of my article published in the MRS Journal was reviewed by a professional in the field (and you know him ). To the best of my knowledge my second half was not, which I was not entirely comfortable with. There should be peer review of articles and what credentials should be known. [ 12-05-2005: Message edited by: chef de chambre ] -------------------- Bob R.
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Fire Stryker
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posted 12-06-2005 11:39 AM
Firstly, we haven't SEEN the Journal in it's final published format. We're still waiting for our copies. Sorry, but it's the truth.What Bob is saying is that his article in the MRS Journal (predecessor to the ARS) was reviewed by a PhD in the armour and museum community (2) if memory serves me correctly: Peer reviewed, a professional in the community. He is wondering if his 2nd article received the same attention. He is not expressing dissatisfaction with the Editorial aspects of his article for the ARS journal. He is well aware of your work with his article and appreciates it. He is also agreeing with Gwen on her point that some biographical data would have been helpful for people who may not know the contributing authors. Please don't read more into what he is saying than is actually there. Jenn [ 12-06-2005: Message edited by: Fire Stryker ]
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Erik D. Schmid
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posted 12-07-2005 10:58 AM
quote: A HUGE oversight/omission (in my view) is a complete lack of any sort of biographical information on the authors of the papers. What's up with that? I've never seen a journal that doesn't have some sort of blurb about the authors. How am I supposed to form an opinion about the qualifications of the authors if I have no information on them?
Haven't seen that many journals then it seems. The Journal of the Arms & Armour Society: No information. Arms & Armour (Royal Armouries): Not much to speak of other than a little blurb stating their title The Park Lane Journal: Again, either no information, or extremely limited It would seem then that these highly valued journals do not see the need for such info. If they do not, why should you?
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Erik D. Schmid
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posted 12-07-2005 01:52 PM
Gwen,I suppose my desire to know something about the people who's work I'm spending time reading is just one of the reasons I'm not a scholar. Could you explain this? I am not quite sure how to take it. Your point also makes me wonder if the authors should consider submitting future articles to these other, well established, highly valued journals. This one could use a bit of explaining as well. Are you suggesting that because the ARS Journal is essentially no different than the others, that it does not make sense to submit anything to it?
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