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Topic: Velvet Horse Trapping/Barding?
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Crimson Vision
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posted 11-18-2005 01:58 PM
Hello Everyone,Another question. Does anyone know of any examples of documented velvet horse barding? I am hoping to recreate this: (picture of François I on horse back by François Clouet the younger in the Galería de los Uffizi. Florencia. Italia) It certainly looks like velvet to me but I'm not having much luck in proving that it actually is. Thoughts? Thank you!
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Fire Stryker
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posted 11-18-2005 02:38 PM
There are quite a few historical records of velvet being used, mainly for the upper crust. Edward IV's and John Howard's records talk about luxury fabrics being used for various things including tack.In an off topic post, I posted an image of an later red velvet covered bridle. The saddle is just as "intense". Jenn -------------------- ad finem fidelis
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Fire Stryker
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posted 11-19-2005 01:18 PM
Hi Crimson,There were no saddle pictures to go with that specific bridle. I got is confused with this one. King's Champion's saddle currently held in the possessions of the Worshipful Company of Saddlers by the generosity of the present Queen's Champion, Lt. Col. J.L.M. Dymoke, MBE, DL, Lord of the Manor of Scrivelsby. It is written that this saddle was most likely used last during the coronation of George III in the 1760s. The style of the saddle, from other examples and drawings from various 16th and 17th c riding manuals, suggests to me that it may be from the 1600s but I haven't fully examined all the details, it just states when it was used last, not when it was created. You've already seen this one in another thread. Cheers, Jenn -------------------- ad finem fidelis
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Fire Stryker
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posted 11-21-2005 09:39 AM
From the "Privy Purse Expenses of Elizabeth of York: Wardrobe Accounts of Edward IV" quote: On the 26th, green velet, garnished with aglets of silver gilt, bordered with spangles, for horse harnesses, together with crimson velvet for covering head- stalls and reins for ten hobies and palfreys, which articles the King presented to the Duchess, were issued by the Wardrobe-keeper (11).
quote: A horse harness and saddle of crimson velvet, and cloth of gold
quote: satin was on one occasion purchased for the covering of her saddle
quote: Her Majesty, and the Countess of Richmond, again wore the livery of the Order, and rode in a rich chair, covered with cloth of gold, drawn by six horses, trapped in a similar manner, and followed by a suite of twenty-one ladies, among whom was her sister the Princess Anne, dressed in crimson velvet gowns, and mounted on white palfreys, the saddles of which were made of cloth of gold, and the trappings covered with white roses, the badge of the House of York
I am sure there's a lot more. It's been a while since I reviewed the document in full. From memory, I know that there is a green velvet covered saddle with silver embroidery. Jenn [ 11-21-2005: Message edited by: Fire Stryker ] -------------------- ad finem fidelis
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