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Had a little trouble posting my text and the image in the same message...

I am in process of collecting permission from holding institutions to use images of their collection for an article that will be published hopefully in the near future (basically as soon as I obtain permission for the key images to illustrate my points).

One image I need is the miniature above which was published in "The Last Flowering of the Middle Ages People & Painters of Flanders" By Baron Joseph van der Elst, Doubleday, Doran & Company, New York 1944.

The picture in question is plate 3 ... "Victory of the Flemish under Philip Van Artevelde befor the walls of Bruge in 1381" Fifteenth-century illumination from a chronicle of Froissart (emphasis mine.

The Baron didn't have the decency to give a manuscript, folio number, or holding institution. It isn't in the Louis de Bruge Froissart, as I believe the full manuscript is online at the B.N. website, but from the details, and the framing of the miniatures and the style of them, it would seem to be out of the same workshop.

If anyone could more clearly identify this particular miniature, I would be deeply indebted to them.

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Does anyone have any ideas regarding this at least? I certainly would appreciate some help.

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I tried to find the precise codex from which your miniature has been taken, but was unable to do so.
What is sure, as you say, is that it's not taken from the Louis de Gruthuse (Bruges) 4 volumes (BNF ms. fr. 2643, fr. 2644, fr. 2645, fr. 2646). However, I'm not sure that your miniature would have been painted by the same workshop as the ones who made Louis de Bruges volumes.
There are different workshops who painted those volumes. The first two (BNF ms. fr. 2643, fr. 2644) were made by Loyset Liédet one. Style and composition are quite different from your miniature. The 4th volume was made by Antoine de Bourgogne's workshop. There are analogies with your miniature, but I'm not convinced.
In case it may help to follow your research, here's a complete listing of the 15th c. Froissart's Chroniques codices owned by the BNF:
1 Français 86
2 Français 2641
3 Français 2642
4 Français 2643
5 Français 2644
6 Français 2645
7 Français 2646
8 Français 2647
9 Français 2648
10 Français 2649
11 Français 2651
12 Français 2652
13 Français 2658
14 Français 2659
15 Français 2660
16 Français 2661
17 Français 2662
18 Français 2663
19 Français 2664
20 Français 2675
21 Français 2676

They have a good documentary service. They might help you.
Good luck.

Loïc

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Thanks very much for your help, and sorry for the latness of my response. Having heard horror stories regarding the B.N., how would you reccommend I go about contacting them regarding this? Is there any particular personage I should direct an inquerry to?

Thanks again very much for your help!

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Sorry, I've been far from home for one week.
Unfortunately, I don't have any personnal contacts in the B.N. I think you should try to contact the bibliographical dept. though: orientation-lecteurs@bnf.fr
If it doesn't work, try the webmaster: he should redirect you to the Occidental Mss. dept., which has no public e-mail address:
webmaster@bnf.fr

I'm afraid that's the best I can do.

Regards,

Loïc

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