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Topic: Early 15th century Question
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Fire Stryker
Admin & Advocatus Diaboli
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posted 11-24-2001 09:00 AM
Heya Rhys,Actually the question falls within the timeframe of the board: 1150-1500. Many of us are late 15th c types, but there are a fair number of non-15s here as well. That form of belt occasionally appears in the mid-fifteenth century. For instance, the effigy of Robert, Lord Hungerford c. 1455. Some of the later ones appear to be made entirely of plaques. Unfortunately, I don't have any references as to how they were fastened. The MoL book on Buckles and Findings may provide one, but I don't know as I don't have it in my library. The belts that appear to encircle the hips probably can't be fastened as a normal belt in that form. They may use hook and eye as we know the technology was used. Sorry I can't be of more help. Jenn
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hauptmann
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posted 11-25-2001 08:59 PM
"Unfortunately, I don't have any references as to how they were fastened. The MoL book on Buckles and Findings may provide one, but I don't know as I don't have it in my library."The buckled fastening shoved around back is documentable. Bob Charrette of La Belle does his this way and he and I have talked about it. You usually have to look at 3D effigies and look around the side and you can see them. To the best of my knowledge, other types of fastenings would be speculative. The MOL book containing the buckles and other girdle hardware is called: Dress Accessories: Medieval finds from excavations in London. Unless the MoL has published something new, this is probably the best book in the series for this type of thing. Since almost no belt survive except the extremely fancy ones, it is difficult to make very educated guesses on what the average plaque belts looked like and how they were constructed. It seems likely that plaques that were affixed to a backing could have been attached with prongs or cast-in rivets, some mounts in my collection have roundish shanks cast in and usually get bent over on the backside of the backing material. Some extant plaques also seem to be configured to link together, requiring no backing, though this method seems to be the exception rather than the most typical method.
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