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Seth
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posted 07-25-2005 08:30 PM     Profile for Seth     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I want to take down a knife for the blade then mount that in a ballock handle, if that makes sense..

Would the blade here do?
It is carbon steel and the whole weapon is 15 inch.

Thankyou.

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Thomas james hayman
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posted 07-25-2005 09:03 PM     Profile for Thomas james hayman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Honestly, i think you'd be much better of making one from scratch. If you don't have a forge you could grind down an old chisel or rasp and re-temper. i'm making one myself and considered reusing a knife but decided it would take longer then to forge from scratch. though i haven't measured one, i would imagine the blade would come in around 11 inches give or tkae an inch.

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Seth
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posted 07-25-2005 09:08 PM     Profile for Seth     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
If you don't have a forge you could grind down an old chisel or rasp and re-temper.

Heh, as i said in a previous postm im REALLY new to this, besides i live in a 3rd floor flat. People would get uppity about loud banging. I have neither forge, not chisel, nor and tools beyond basic DIY. is why i was looking into an existing blade to bastardise.

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Thomas james hayman
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posted 07-25-2005 09:49 PM     Profile for Thomas james hayman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Seeing as though you live in bradford, i'll have to get some charcoal in and we could try and knock out a dagger of sorts? what say you?

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Seth
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posted 07-25-2005 10:11 PM     Profile for Seth     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ye gods, sounds liek fun , however you would have to show me
'this is the metal, watch out, metal hot, hot = burny, this is hammer, hammer make hot metal into dagger, this is fire, fire= burny, but make metal hot for hammer'
Well maybe not that bad, but id have literally no idea where to start.
at all.

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Thomas james hayman
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posted 07-25-2005 10:18 PM     Profile for Thomas james hayman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
i'm no expert myself. i have an educated guess on most forging techniques :-). in theory, i can hammer one out, show you the basics of doing it and let you have a bash. You must promise not to laugh at my hairdryer powered forge though

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posted 07-26-2005 06:13 PM     Profile for Woodcrafter   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
That is a nice bayonet. The blade is quite different from a medieval double edged knife. It would take alot of work to make it what you want. Same goes for an old file. It is hell getting the teeth marks out of the file, though I have seen it done. I would suggest talking to the local steel manufacturer or car spring manufacturer and ordering 5 dollars worth of high carbon steel from them already 'annealed'. Annealed will allow you to easily file it to shape as well as cut it with a hand saw with a metal cutting blade. Once it shaped as you want, then find a local blacksmith association and drop in to use their forge and ask them how best to temper it. Depending on the metal is what colour heat to bring it too. The spring or metal company that sells it to you, should also provide a temperature that it should be tempered at. The blacksmiths should have a handy chart of 'colours' to temperature. Good luck.

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Thomas james hayman
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posted 07-26-2005 06:40 PM     Profile for Thomas james hayman   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I have to say, there are few Blacksmiths in yokrshire let alone blacksmtihs association. theres BABA but they have meetings in Austria for some reason. Like i said, let me tidy things up round here and we'll see about you coming round and using my forge in a month or so. Mail me if you're interested. thomasDOThaymanATgmailDOTcom

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posted 07-26-2005 10:37 PM     Profile for Ulfgar     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I have done both the conversion method and the make from scratch method. Trust me on this, It is not only easier to make it from scratch but you will also end up with a better result.

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