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Chuck Davis
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posted 01-29-2003 07:30 AM     Profile for Chuck Davis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Greetings,
This last weekend, Aaron Toman and I headed into my shop and spent some time learning how to hot raise an hourglass gauntlet in one piece.

I had my digital camera and documented the whole process.
http://www.mallet-argent.com/hotraised.html

We have now started raising 2 pair in spring steel [1050]

Hope this inspires you!

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-Chuck Davis

"Imagination is more important that knowledge. -Albert Einstein"


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Alienor
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posted 01-29-2003 02:24 PM     Profile for Alienor   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I'm inspired!

Thanks for sharing the fruits of so much labor.

Anne


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Erik Schmidt
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posted 02-01-2003 07:01 PM     Profile for Erik Schmidt     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Another great how-to article. Thanks Chuck.
It's promted my first post here

The article does bring up a couple of points which I have wondered about for quite some time.
I have noticed that hourglass gauntlets don't seem to have been joined(closed) at the inner wrist until about the 1380 or so. Before then there was a significant gap which when seen always has a fairly similar shape edge, the shape being retained to a certain extent even in the riveted ones.
To know what I mean you may need a copy of the Wisby book as well as the article by Mann in The Antiquaries Journal Vol. 22, pp.113-122.
This gap suggests that the earlier forms of hourglass gauntlets could not have been rolled and riveted closed before raising, and given the similarity in shape of the gap, and later riveted, area, that the same technique may have been used to form the earlier and later hourgalss gaunltets.

Were they raised from a flat piece or were they rolled (but not riveted closed) and raised from there?
What, in your opinion, would be the possibility of raising such a gauntlet without it being riveted shut?

I wonder if the gap in the earlier gauntlets was a matter of fashion, carried on from the covered gauntlets, or convenience because of the lighter weight (unless a closed one could be made from lighter metal than an open one due to the increased rigidity when rivted closed) or was it due to the manufacturing technique, or quality of iron, which slowly developed to allow them to form the gauntlet to the point of closure at the inside of the wrist?

I'd love to hear some thoughts on the subject.

Erik


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Grimm
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posted 02-02-2003 08:12 AM     Profile for Grimm   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Erik,

I know nothing about how to make these gauntlets, sence I have never made a pair before. I did stumble across this image you might find interesting.

It looks like it was origionally like the ones you describe and then had a strip of iron riveted across the gap. Interesting....

Jason
Veltin Grimm

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Erik Schmidt
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posted 02-03-2003 05:40 AM     Profile for Erik Schmidt     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks for posting that Jason. I have the image also and it illustrates the gap I'm talking about.

Erik


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Ivo
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posted 03-16-2003 10:49 AM     Profile for Ivo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hello.

Sorry for warming up this old thread once more, but...I can´t open Grimm´s picture showing the Gauntlet from Wallace Collection.
Is it a problem about my computer, or did you lose this one?
Or could someone mail me this picture?

Thanks in advance,
best regards

Ivo

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Ivo


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Chuck Davis
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posted 03-16-2003 11:51 AM     Profile for Chuck Davis   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ivo:
Or could someone mail me this picture?

Thanks in advance,
best regards

Ivo



Sure Ivo, I'll send you it.
-Cad

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-Chuck Davis

"Imagination is more important that knowledge. -Albert Einstein"


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Grimm
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posted 03-16-2003 04:03 PM     Profile for Grimm   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Sorry about that Ivo, I removed the picture from my site to conserve space. Thanks Cad.

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Ivo
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posted 03-19-2003 10:35 AM     Profile for Ivo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message   Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Just got the pic- thank you so much.

Regards

ivo

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