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Saverio
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Member # 63

posted 09-28-2002 01:38 PM

Hey everyone, just thought I'd share my latest project with all of you. I've completed a right handed maille mitten, similar to those shown in Manessa Codex.
http://saverio4444.tripod.com/gauntlet.html

Saverio

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chef de chambre
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posted 09-29-2002 08:58 AM

Hi Saverio,

Excellent work. I especially enjoy the documentation you provide on the very page. Nowt can nay-say you with that. One final touch would be to provide the source you found the inventories in, as well as the pics.

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Bob R.

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Saverio
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posted 09-29-2002 02:01 PM

Thanks for the encouragement Bob. I decided to document some of my more odd pieces of kit after a few people snubbed my tabulaccio as if it were a fantasy piece.

"One final touch would be to provide the source you found the inventories in, as well as the pics."

I had a feeling you'd say that . I'm still flipping pages trying to find which one had the references. Oops, did I just admit I documented something from memory

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Seigneur de Leon
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posted 09-29-2002 05:53 PM

Interesting. I did a pair of butted maille gloves a few years ago made ot of 14 G. galv. with a brass trim on the cuff. Following Gypsy's maille book I started with a "coif-like" circular pattern rather than a straight piece at the fingertips. I saw no advantage to that at all, plus the lines didn't follow the pictures you posted, or the ones I was working off of. I used bison hide to make the mittens, and I made them large enough I can slip in a piece of fleece over the knuckles for steel combat.
I intend to use some of the mantle pieces of my riveted maille coif (after I attach the "head" to the haulberk) to make another pair. I have elk hide mittens a size too large, and I am going to sew in the fleece. I haven't decided about cuffs yet. I have a long sleeve riveted haulberk, which is appropriate for the earlier parts of the 12th C., but the 13th tended to have attached mittens. Then in the 14th C., hourglass gauntlets with articulating seperate fingers appeared. So I can get the widest range by not attaching the mittens to the haulberk.
How did you do your cuffs? Is the maille "backed" by stiff leather, or do they roll down when you drop your hands?
How did you sew the maille to the leather? By stitching each ring individually w/artificial sinew, or did you weave a string through the maille then sew the string?

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VERITAS IN INTIMO
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Saverio
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Member # 63

posted 09-29-2002 07:21 PM

"Following Gypsy's maille book I started with a "coif-like" circular pattern rather than a straight piece at the fingertips. I saw no advantage to that at all, plus the lines didn't follow the pictures you posted, or the ones I was working off of."

I'm a bit confused, which method didn't you see an advantage in?

The cuffs of my mittens aren't backed, they sag as I lower my hand. If you take a look at the Manessa Codex images I've included on my page you'll see that they droop at the end of the cuff. In the picture they sag a lot, but that's because it's made to fit an aketon sleeve in it. To attach the maille I ran a leather cord through the outer edge and sewed it down with waxed thread.

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Saverio
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posted 09-29-2002 08:59 PM

I just put up two pics of the strap&buckle garter. http://saverio4444.tripod.com/gauntlet.html
It works much better than the leather cord; I can now fasten it one-handed.

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Seigneur de Leon
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posted 09-30-2002 12:16 AM

Well, I'm not getting all of the pictures, but (correct me here) it looks like you have either sewn leather on to the links like a "hem", or you have weaved some leather through the links then stitched. I can't tell.
As far as confusing you, what I meant was the circular method was a whole bunch of trouble with no noticable benefit, and I was going to make the new pair by carrying the vertical rows on down to the finger tips as you have done.

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Seigneur de Leon
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posted 09-30-2002 12:19 AM

Or rather as the picture shows, I see you put the cuff horizontal, which I feel is correct to work off of the maille expansion, but your pictures show vertical (which happens to be the way the Indians made my riveted maille shirt).

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Saverio
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posted 09-30-2002 10:19 AM

I believe I had all the images fixed now, I'v never had this much trouble with displaying images

"Well, I'm not getting all of the pictures, but (correct me here) it looks like you have either sewn leather on to the links like a "hem", or you have weaved some leather through the links then stitched. I can't tell."

I ran a leather cord through the outer links and sewed that down to the mitten. I then turned the whole thing to put the seam on the inside.

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